Penalties Schmenalties

On Wednesday (delayed from their normal Tuesday announcement due to Keselowski’s White House appearance), NASCAR announced penalties for team Penske involving 25 points, $100,000, and 6 week suspensions for crew and car chiefs for both the #2 and #22 Penske Fords.

That’s a pretty harsh penalty any way you look at it, made even harsher because NASCAR has not yet actually stated that anything that they confiscated was “illegal”.

Just that certain parts “weren’t in the spirit of the rules”.

Heck of a penalty for not having NASCAR spirit.

Racing during the whole race

I’ve been thinking about the thorny problem of “how do we get drivers to actually race during the whole race, and not just save it for the end?”

This article fleshes out one alternative to what I’ve been thinking – award points for your position on the track at the 1/4, 1/2, & 3/4 mark of the race. Maybe just the top 10 – if you are in 1st, you get 10 pts, 2nd, 9 points, etc…

But I think it is still an extension of the thinking that got us the points racing mentality in the first place.

Is there another format we can use to make races more interesting?

Could we break the races into 1/4 length chunks, at the end of which you get a caution flag and a mandatory 4 tire stop? You could also schedule commercial breaks in there and cover the green flag racing. Plus, the tendency for races to end in a fuel mileage battle would be reduced. Perhaps you could combine the two ideas – award the top 10 at the end of each segment the 10 – 1 points in descending order, and also take a break.

I admit, I haven’t thought this one through yet, so it’s probably full of holes. Now it’s your job to go and poke them.

A Relative Chase for the Championship

Week 10 “Relative” Chase Standings as of Homestead
It’s no secret, we hate the NASCAR Chase Format. We imagine that in a true playoff system, Chase drivers should be scored relative to each other. The first finishing Chase driver receives 12 points (+1 bonus point for a win) the next Chaser gets 11 poins, etc…, with the last Chaser earning 1 point. Here’s what that would look like:

Place NASCAR Chase: Relative
Playoff System
Points Regular
Season
Wins
Chase Wins Official NASCAR Points
1 Brad Keselowski   93 3 2 1st Brad Keselowski
2 Jimmie Johnson   81 (-12)   3 2 2nd Clint Bowyer  (-39)
3 Clint Bowyer (+1)   79  (-14) 2 1 3rd Jimmie Johnson  (-40)
4 Kasey Kahne (-1) 74  (-19) 2 0 4th Kasey Kahne  (-55)
5 Matt Kenseth   65  (-28) 2 2 5th Greg Biffle (-68)
6 Denny Hamlin 63 (-30) 4 1 6th Denny Hamlin  (-71)
7 Greg Biffle (+1)   61  (-32) 1 1 7th Matt Kenseth  (-76)
8 Martin Truex Jr. (+2)   60  (-33) 0 0 8th Kevin Harvick (-79)
9 Tony Stewart (-2)   59  (-34) 3 0 9th Tony Stewart  (-89)
10 Kevin Harvick (-1)   59  (-34) 0 1 10th Jeff Gordon (-97)
11 Dale Earnhardt Jr.   46  (-47) 1 0 11th Martin Truex Jr.  (-101)
12 Jeff Gordon   41  (-52) 1 1 12th Dale Earnhardt Jr.  (-155)

Week 9 “Relative” Chase Standings as of Phoenix

Week 9 “Relative” Chase Standings as of Phoenix
It’s no secret, we hate the NASCAR Chase Format. We imagine that in a true playoff system, Chase drivers should be scored relative to each other. The first finishing Chase driver receives 12 points (+1 bonus point for a win) the next Chaser gets 11 poins, etc…, with the last Chaser earning 1 point. Here’s what that would look like:

Place NASCAR Chase: Relative
Playoff System
Points Regular
Season
Wins
Chase Wins Official NASCAR Points
1 Brad Keselowski   87 3 2 1st Brad Keselowski
2 Jimmie Johnson   80 (-7)   3 2 2nd Jimmie Johnson  (-20)
3 Kasey Kahne (+1)   71  (-16) 2 0 3rd Kasey Kahne  (-50)
4 Clint Bowyer (-1) 68  (-19) 2 1 4th Clint Bowyer  (-52)
5 Matt Kenseth   61  (-26) 2 2 5th Denny Hamlin (-62)
6 Denny Hamlin 61 (-26) 4 1 6th Matt Kenseth  (-74)
7 Tony Stewart (+2)   54  (-33) 3 0 7th Greg Biffle  (-78)
8 Greg Biffle (+2)   51  (-36) 1 1 8th Kevin Harvick (-86)
9 Kevin Harvick (+2)   51  (-36) 0 1 9th Tony Stewart  (-87)
10 Martin Truex Jr. (-2)   51  (-36) 0 0 10th Martin Truex Jr. (-111)
11 Dale Earnhardt Jr. (+1)   39  (-48) 1 0 11th Jeff Gordon  (-115)
12 Jeff Gordon (-5)   28  (-59) 1 0 12th Dale Earnhardt Jr.  (-160)

Week 8 “Relative” Chase Standings as of Texas

Week 8 “Relative” Chase Standings as of Texas
It’s no secret, we hate the NASCAR Chase Format. We imagine that in a true playoff system, Chase drivers should be scored relative to each other. The first finishing Chase driver receives 12 points (+1 bonus point for a win) the next Chaser gets 11 poins, etc…, with the last Chaser earning 1 point. Here’s what that would look like:

Place NASCAR Chase: Relative
Playoff System
Points Regular
Season
Wins
Chase Wins Official NASCAR Points
1 Brad Keselowski   78 3 2 1st Jimmie Johnson
2 Jimmie Johnson   78   3 2 2nd Brad Keselowski  (-7)
3 Clint Bowyer (+1)   64  (-14) 2 1 3rd Clint Bowyer  (-36)
4 Kasey Kahne (-1) 61  (-17) 2 0 4th Kasey Kahne  (-58)
5 Matt Kenseth (+6)   54  (-24) 2 2 5th Matt Kenseth (-72)
6 Denny Hamlin (-1) 50 (-28) 4 1 6th Jeff Gordon  (-72)
7 Jeff Gordon (-1)   50  (-28) 1 0 7th Denny Hamlin  (-73)
8 Martin Truex Jr. (-1)   50  (-28) 0 0 8th Tony Stewart (-80)
9 Tony Stewart   39  (-28) 3 0 9th Martin Truex Jr.  (-80)
10 Greg Biffle   43  (-35) 1 1 10th Greg Biffle (-83)
11 Kevin Harvick   38  (-40) 0 0 11th Kevin Harvick  (-101)
12 Dale Earnhardt Jr.   34  (-44) 1 0 12th Dale Earnhardt Jr.  (-151)

Week 7 “Relative” Chase Standings as of Martinsville

Week 7 “Relative” Chase Standings as of Martinsville
It’s no secret, we hate the NASCAR Chase Format. We imagine that in a true playoff system, Chase drivers should be scored relative to each other. Here’s what that would look like:

Place NASCAR Chase: Relative
Playoff System
Points Regular
Season
Wins
Chase Wins Official NASCAR Points
1 Brad Keselowski   67 3 2 1st Jimmie Johnson
2 Jimmie Johnson   65  (-2) 3 1 2nd Brad Keselowski  (-2)
3 Kasey Kahne   60  (-7) 2 0 3rd Clint Bowyer  (-26)
4 Clint Bowyer (+1) 56  (-11) 2 1 4th Kasey Kahne  (-29)
5 Denny Hamlin (-2)   48  (-19) 4 1 5th Denny Hamlin (-49)
6 Jeff Gordon (+1) 47 (-20) 1 0 6th Jeff Gordon  (-54)
7 Martin Truex Jr. (-1)   46  (-21) 0 0 7th Martin Truex Jr.  (-63)
8 Matt Kenseth   44  (-23) 2 2 8th Matt Kenseth (-65)
9 Tony Stewart   39  (-28) 3 0 9th Greg Biffle  (-69)
10 Greg Biffle   38  (-29) 1 1 10th Tony Stewart (-71)
11 Kevin Harvick   32  (-35) 0 0 11th Kevin Harvick  (-88)
12 Dale Earnhardt Jr.   27  (-40) 1 0 12th Dale Earnhardt Jr.  (-140)

Week 6 “Relative” Chase Standings as of Kansas

Week 6 “Relative” Chase Standings as of Kansas
It’s no secret, we hate the NASCAR Chase Format. We imagine that in a true playoff system, Chase drivers should be scored relative to each other. Here’s what that would look like:

Place NASCAR Chase: Relative
Playoff System
Points Regular
Season
Wins
Chase Wins Official NASCAR Points
1 Brad Keselowski   58 3 2 1st Brad Keselowski
2 Jimmie Johnson   52  (-6) 3 0 2nd Jimmie Johnson  (-7)
3 Kasey Kahne (+1)   49  (-9) 2 0 3rd Denny Hamlin  (-20)
4 Denny Hamlin (-1) 47  (-11) 4 1 4th Clint Bowyer  (-25)
5 Clint Bowyer   46  (-12) 2 1 5th Kasey Kahne (-30)
6 Martin Truex Jr. (+1) 42 (-16) 0 0 6th Martin Truex Jr.  (-43)
7 Jeff Gordon (-1)   39  (-19) 1 0 7th Tony Stewart  (-47)
8 Matt Kenseth  (+3) 37  (-21) 2 2 8th Jeff Gordon (-51)
9 Tony Stewart   36  (-22) 3 0 9th Matt Kenseth  (-55)
10 Greg Biffle  (-2) 31  (-27) 1 1 10th Kevin Harvick (-59)
11 Kevin Harvick (-1)   30  (-28) 0 0 11th Greg Biffle  (-62)
12 Dale Earnhardt Jr.   22  (-36) 1 0 12th Dale Earnhardt Jr.  (-122)

Week 5 “Relative” Chase Standings

Week 5 “Relative” Chase Standings as of Charlotte
It’s no secret, we hate the NASCAR Chase Format. We imagine that in a true playoff system, Chase drivers should be scored relative to each other. Here’s what that would look like:

Place NASCAR Chase: Relative
Playoff System
Points Regular
Season
Wins
Chase Wins Official NASCAR Points
1 Brad Keselowski   51 3 2 1st Brad Keselowski
2 Jimmie Johnson   46  (-5) 3 0 2nd Jimmie Johnson  (-7)
3 Denny Hamlin   44  (-7) 4 1 3rd Denny Hamlin  (-15)
4 Kasey Kahne (+1) 39  (-12) 2 0 4th Clint Bowyer  (-28)
5 Clint Bowyer  (+1) 38  (-13) 2 1 5th Kasey Kahne (-35)
6 Jeff Gordon (-2) 34 (-20) 1 0 6th Greg Biffle  (-43)
7 Martin Truex Jr.   31  (-20) 0 0 7th Martin Truex Jr.  (-49)
8 Greg Biffle  (+4) 29  (-22) 1 1 8th Tony Stewart (-50)
9 Tony Stewart   27  (-24) 3 0 9th Jeff Gordon  (-50)
10 Kevin Harvick  (-2) 26  (-25) 0 0 10th Kevin Harvick (-54)
11 Matt Kenseth (+1)   24  (-27) 2 0 11th Matt Kenseth  (-67)
12 Dale Earnhardt Jr. (-2)   22  (-29) 1 0 12th Dale Earnhardt Jr.  (-86)

Week 4 “Relative” Chase Standings

Week 4 “Relative” Chase Standings

Place NASCAR Chase: Relative
Playoff System
Points Regular
Season
Wins
Chase Wins Official NASCAR Points
1 Brad Keselowski   45 3 2 1st Brad Keselowski
2 Jimmie Johnson   36  (-9) 3 0 2nd Jimmie Johnson  (-23)
3 Denny Hamlin   33  (-12) 4 1 3rd Denny Hamlin  (-23)
4 Jeff Gordon (+2) 32  (-13) 1 0 4th Kasey Kahne  (-36)
5 Kasey Kahne  (-1) 31  (-14) 2 0 5th Clint Bowyer (-40)
6 Clint Bowyer (-1) 25 (-20) 2 0 6th Jeff Gordon  (-42)
7 Martin Truex Jr.  (+2) 24  (-21) 0 0 7th Tony Stewart  (-46)
8 Kevin Harvick  (+2) 23  (-22) 1 0 8th Martin Trues Jr. (-48)
9 Tony Stewart  (-2) 22  (-23) 3 0 9th Greg Biffle  (-49)
10 Dale Earnhardt Jr.  (-2) 22  (-23) 1 0 10th Kevin Harvick (-49)
11 Matt Kenseth (+2)   20  (-25) 1 1 11th Dale Earnhardt Jr.  (-51)
12 Greg Biffle (-1)   20  (-25) 2 0 12th Matt Kenseth  (-62)

“Relative” Chase Standings: Week 3

Week 3 “Relative” Chase Standings

Place NASCAR Chase: Relative
Playoff System
Points Regular
Season
Wins
Chase Wins Official NASCAR Points
1 Brad Keselowski  (+1) 36 3 2 1st Brad Keselowski
2 Jimmie Johnson  (-1) 35  (-1) 3 0 2nd Jimmie Johnson  (-5)
3 Denny Hamlin   28  (-8) 4 1 3rd Denny Hamlin  (-16)
4 Kasey Kahne 24  (-12) 2 0 4th Clint Bowyer  (-25)
5 Clint Bowyer  (+1) 24  (-12) 2 0 5th Tony Stewart (-32)
6 Jeff Gordon (+2) 21 (-15) 1 0 6th Kasey Kahne  (-32)
7 Tony Stewart  (-2) 20  (-16) 3 0 7th Earnhardt Jr.  (-39)
8 Dale Earnhardt Jr.  (-1) 19  (-17) 1 0 8th Martin Trues Jr. (-42)
9 Martin Truex Jr.  (+1) 18  (-18) 0 0 9th Kevin Harvick  (-46)
10 Kevin Harvick  (-1) 15  (-21) 0 0 10th Jeff Gordon (-48)
11 Greg Biffle   10  (-26) 2 0 11th Greg Biffle  (-51)
12 Matt Kenseth   7  (-29) 1 0 12th Matt Kenseth  (-72)

Trach Schmak Chase Points Week 2

Here is week 2 under our relative points system.

Place NASCAR Chase: Relative
Playoff System
Points Regular
Season
Wins
Chase Wins Official NASCAR Points
1 Jimmie Johnson  (+1) 25 3 0 1st Jimmie Johnson
2 Brad Keselowski  (-1) 23  (-2) 3 1 2nd Brad Keselowski  (-1)
3 Denny Hamlin  (+4) 20  (-5) 4 1 3rd Denny Hamlin  (-7)
4 Kasey Kahne 20  (-5) 2 0 4th Tony Stewart  (-10)
5 Tony Stewart  (-2) 18  (-7) 3 0 5th Kasey Kahne (-15)
6 Clint Bowyer 17 (-8) 2 0 6th Clint Bowyer  (-15)
7 Dale Earnhardt Jr.  (-2) 13  (-12) 1 0 7th Earnhardt Jr.  (-26)
8 Jeff Gordon  (+4) 10  (-15) 1 0 8th Kevin Harvick (-31)
9 Kevin Harvick  (+1) 10  (-15) 0 0 9th Greg Biffle  (-33)
10 Martin Truex Jr.  (-2) 9  (-16) 0 0 10th Martin Truex Jr. (-34)
11 Greg Biffle  (-2) 7  (-18) 2 0 11th Matt Kenseth  (-35)
12 Matt Kenseth  (-1) 6  (-19) 1 0 12th Jeff Gordon  (-45)

Be sure to listen to this week’s Podcast where we will break down the points systems.